Caroline Fraser is a Pulitzer Prize-winning author and editor. Her most recent book is "Murderland: Crime and Bloodlust in the Time of Serial Killers."  www.carolinefraser.net https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/741809/murderland-by-caroline-fraser/ This video is sponsored by BetterHelp. Visit https://BetterHelp.com/JRE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices